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  • Melbourne Cup | FSB | Blog | Online | Sports | Betting | Live | Bet | Sport | Odds | AFL | NRL | Horse Racing
    time a given race stands out for a period as a reliable form guide for disproportionately producing the winner of a future race Why does this happen Is it just a quirk of Australian racing Perhaps success breeds success and a race suddenly becomes fashionable When something works for one trainer perhaps others follow The Geelong Cup seems to mirror this As discussed in an earlier blog as despite its long history first run in 1872 no horse had won the Geelong Cup Melbourne Cup double in the same season until Media Puzzle in 2002 Following that other international trainers have targeted that race as a key lead up for the Melbourne Cup Americain and Dunaden both completed the double in the last two years No horse doing the double in 130 years and then three in the last decade The Geelong Cup is today what The Metropolitan was in the 1950 s While no horse has won the Metrop Melbourne Cup double since Macdougal there have been plenty of close shaves But for a bump down the Flemington straight Natski would likely have completed the double in 1988 The year before Kensei was second in the Metrop before winning the Cup Arwon was also second in the Metrop before winning the Cup All close but no cigar So whatever horse wins The Metropolitan atRandwickthis Saturday you best put a line through it as a Melbourne Cup selection Weather it be a quirk of racing or not we still have a few years wait before we break that eighty four year record run to see a Metrop Melbourne Cup winner in the same season Tweet Posted in Horse Racing Odds Melbourne Cup Form Guide Melbourne Cup Odds Tagged Horse Racing Melbourne Cup Melbourne Cup odds spring carnival Leave a reply Great Guide to Spring Success Posted on September 27 2012 by Flemington Sportsbet Reply With the internationalisation of the Spring Carnival the nature of Spring racing and training has alerted Before the influx of the internationals it was virtually regarded as gospel that to win the Melbourne Cup you had to run in a lead up on Derby Day Now few horses even try While some lead up races may not be as vital as they once were other periphery races have developed into significant lead up races for horses pursuing greater goals later in the Spring The Geelong Cup has certainly seen a lift in quality in recent years Despite its long history first run in 1872 no horse had won the Geelong Cup Melbourne Cup double in the same season until in 2002 when Dermot Weld needed a race to qualify his horse for the Melbourne Cup The Geelong Cup for so long viewed as a minor lead up race is no longer on the periphery Since Media Puzzle won the Geelong Cup Melbourne Cup double in 2002 others have followed including Americain and Dunaden both completing the double in the last two years She s Archie finished second in both races in 2003 and On A Jeune won inGeelongbefore running second in the 2005 Melbourne Cup Another race that was largely on the periphery but has recently proved a valuable guide to the Spring majors is the Japan Racing Association J R A Cup run this Friday night atMooneeValley Run over the Cox Plate distance of 2040 metres this race has developed into a valuable Spring lead up for rising local talent and has proved a suitable guide for those with dreams of either a Plate or a Cup El Segundo won the JRA Cup in 2005 and then won the Caulfield Yalumba Stks at WFA group 1 He would later place in and also win a Cox Plate In 2007 Maldivian won the JRA Cup and he too won the Caulfield Yalumba Stks He was then favourite for the Caulfield Cup before being sensationally withdrawn at the barriers Despite the withdrawal of Maldivian the winner of the Caulfield Cup still came through the JRA Cup with third placed Master O Reilly first home at Caulfield Maldivian bounced back a year later winning the Cox Plate In 2009 the JRA Cup highlighted two rising stars Alcopop won the JRA Cup and then won the Herbert Power Stakes and was one of the favourites in the Melbourne Cup However third in that JRA Cup was Shocking who would later race into history as victor on the first Tuesday in November Bart Cummings handy stayer Precedence won in 2010 and would also win the Moonee Valley Cup So when looking for the winner of JRA Cup this Friday night perhaps rather than look at past form it is worth considering who has the potential for future Spring glory Tweet Posted in Horse Racing Odds Melbourne Cup Form Guide Melbourne Cup Odds Tagged Horse Racing HORSE RACING TIPS Melbourne Cup Melbourne Cup odds Leave a reply A classic cup form race Posted on September 14 2012 by Flemington Sportsbet Reply T his weekend sees the running of the Irish St Leger at the Curragh Unlike the English St Leger also run this weekend the Irish version is not restricted to three year olds allowing older stayers to also compete Vintage Crop Oscar Schindler Kayf Tara Arctic Owl Vinnie Row Yeats Authaal Alandi and Juke Box Jury are all winners of the Irish St Leger that have ventured to Australia to race at some point in their career Since the internationalisation of the Melbourne Cup the Irish St Leger has consistently proved a reliable guide The key to its value as a Cup pointer may lay in its timing being run in mid early September and its distance The September date seems to fit well with the European style preparation of stayers readying for the Melbourne Cup in November Giving both a crucial hit out before quarantine and sufficient recuperating or preparatory space for the before the Cup At around 2800 metres the Irish St Leger seems to be ideal distance

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  • Melbourne Cup Odds | FSB | Blog | Online | Sports | Betting | Live | Bet | Sport | Odds | AFL | NRL | Horse Racing
    In this scenario once nominated in one of the other races a horse is nominated for the Champion Classic This would also attract interest in pre post betting for the race In recent years some of the international Melbourne Cup contenders have stayed for the Sandown Zipping Classic under current conditions Many from the Cox Plate Derby Oaks don t have another start But what a Championship it could be with the right prize money and promotion Year in year out what a race it could be with all the leading performers from the Caulfield Cup Cox Plate Melbourne Cup Derbyand Oaks invited to run in a true grand final for the spring A fourth major what a way to end the carnival Tweet Posted in Horse Racing Odds Melbourne Cup Form Guide Melbourne Cup Odds Tagged Melbourne Cup Melbourne Cup odds racing selections spring carnival Leave a reply A Not So Good Guide to the Melbourne Cup Posted on October 4 2012 by Flemington Sportsbet Reply 1959 That s the last time the winner of The Metropolitan went on to win the Melbourne Cup Over half a century without a horse doing the double It is perhaps just another quirk of racing but in the 1950 s things were very different In the 1950 s The Metropolitan was the form race for picking the Cup winner Macdougal 1959 Straight Draw 1957 Dalray 1952 and Delta 1951 all completed The Metropolitan Melbourne Cup double in the same season What was it about The Metropolitan in the 1950 s What is more intriguing about the 1950 s Metropolitan is that before Delta won the double in 1951 it had been 84 years since Tim Whiffler had achieved the double in 1867 Eighty four years wait and then four successes in the 1950 s and no horse has won the double since What was it about The Metropolitan in the 1950 s Certainly it appears there are form patterns that develop in Australian racing From time to time a given race stands out for a period as a reliable form guide for disproportionately producing the winner of a future race Why does this happen Is it just a quirk of Australian racing Perhaps success breeds success and a race suddenly becomes fashionable When something works for one trainer perhaps others follow The Geelong Cup seems to mirror this As discussed in an earlier blog as despite its long history first run in 1872 no horse had won the Geelong Cup Melbourne Cup double in the same season until Media Puzzle in 2002 Following that other international trainers have targeted that race as a key lead up for the Melbourne Cup Americain and Dunaden both completed the double in the last two years No horse doing the double in 130 years and then three in the last decade The Geelong Cup is today what The Metropolitan was in the 1950 s While no horse has won the Metrop Melbourne Cup double since Macdougal

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  • Racing Selections | FSB | Blog | Online | Sports | Betting | Live | Bet | Sport | Odds | AFL | NRL | Horse Racing
    of year the high point of the calendar The pinnacle of this magical time is the majors the Caulfield Cup Cox Plate and Melbourne Cup Two and a half weeks of great races Each race for varying reasons can be a grand final in its own right I say grand final as for any number of reasons a horse may only be set for one race and even if it wins may not run in another of the majors Traditionally the staying handicappers ran in both Cups But that is not a given these days Some horses now bypass the Caulfield cup altogether for fear of attracting a significant penalty and making it that much harder to win the Melbourne Cup Some like last year s Caulfield winner Southern Speed were not entered for the later Cup altogether The Cox Plate traditionally requires a WFA quality horse fast and strong over ten furlongs It is a race for the perennial champion who can return year after year but would perhaps carry too much weight in handicaps The Melbourne Cup a handicap and run at two miles is certainly distinct from any other race but is also often too testing in distance and or weight for many a Cox Plate winner So it can be argued each is a grand final in its own right The Melbourne Cup is undoubtedly our greatest race But what about a fourth major What about a true grand final that potentially could bring together the winners and placegetters of the other major races plus perhaps the top performers from theDerbyand Oaks To suit all these participants such a race would need to be WFA and run at the classic distance In many respects such a race already exists the Sandown Zipping Classic What the Sandown Zipping Classic currently lacks is the prize money and promotion to make it a fourth major It already has many advantages being at the end of the carnival run at 2400m and at WFA Being run at Sandown also gives it unique status comparable to the other majors all run at separate tracks To be successful this Champion Classic would need to be worth at least 2 million Increased sponsorship and a whole of industry approach would be needed to achieve such a pool Perhaps an increase in the nomination fees to the other races mentioned could occur creating a pool to increase the prize money for the fourth major In this scenario once nominated in one of the other races a horse is nominated for the Champion Classic This would also attract interest in pre post betting for the race In recent years some of the international Melbourne Cup contenders have stayed for the Sandown Zipping Classic under current conditions Many from the Cox Plate Derby Oaks don t have another start But what a Championship it could be with the right prize money and promotion Year in year out what a race it could be with all the

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  • Spring Carnival | FSB | Blog | Online | Sports | Betting | Live | Bet | Sport | Odds | AFL | NRL | Horse Racing
    the 1950 s What is more intriguing about the 1950 s Metropolitan is that before Delta won the double in 1951 it had been 84 years since Tim Whiffler had achieved the double in 1867 Eighty four years wait and then four successes in the 1950 s and no horse has won the double since What was it about The Metropolitan in the 1950 s Certainly it appears there are form patterns that develop in Australian racing From time to time a given race stands out for a period as a reliable form guide for disproportionately producing the winner of a future race Why does this happen Is it just a quirk of Australian racing Perhaps success breeds success and a race suddenly becomes fashionable When something works for one trainer perhaps others follow The Geelong Cup seems to mirror this As discussed in an earlier blog as despite its long history first run in 1872 no horse had won the Geelong Cup Melbourne Cup double in the same season until Media Puzzle in 2002 Following that other international trainers have targeted that race as a key lead up for the Melbourne Cup Americain and Dunaden both completed the double in the last two years No horse doing the double in 130 years and then three in the last decade The Geelong Cup is today what The Metropolitan was in the 1950 s While no horse has won the Metrop Melbourne Cup double since Macdougal there have been plenty of close shaves But for a bump down the Flemington straight Natski would likely have completed the double in 1988 The year before Kensei was second in the Metrop before winning the Cup Arwon was also second in the Metrop before winning the Cup All close but no cigar So whatever horse wins The Metropolitan atRandwickthis Saturday you best put a line through it as a Melbourne Cup selection Weather it be a quirk of racing or not we still have a few years wait before we break that eighty four year record run to see a Metrop Melbourne Cup winner in the same season Tweet Posted in Horse Racing Odds Melbourne Cup Form Guide Melbourne Cup Odds Tagged Horse Racing Melbourne Cup Melbourne Cup odds spring carnival Leave a reply A classic cup form race Posted on September 14 2012 by Flemington Sportsbet Reply T his weekend sees the running of the Irish St Leger at the Curragh Unlike the English St Leger also run this weekend the Irish version is not restricted to three year olds allowing older stayers to also compete Vintage Crop Oscar Schindler Kayf Tara Arctic Owl Vinnie Row Yeats Authaal Alandi and Juke Box Jury are all winners of the Irish St Leger that have ventured to Australia to race at some point in their career Since the internationalisation of the Melbourne Cup the Irish St Leger has consistently proved a reliable guide The key to its value as a Cup pointer may lay in

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  • A fourth major, what a way to end the carnival! | FSB | Blog | Online | Sports | Betting | Live | Bet | Sport | Odds | AFL | NRL | Horse Racing
    Plate traditionally requires a WFA quality horse fast and strong over ten furlongs It is a race for the perennial champion who can return year after year but would perhaps carry too much weight in handicaps The Melbourne Cup a handicap and run at two miles is certainly distinct from any other race but is also often too testing in distance and or weight for many a Cox Plate winner So it can be argued each is a grand final in its own right The Melbourne Cup is undoubtedly our greatest race But what about a fourth major What about a true grand final that potentially could bring together the winners and placegetters of the other major races plus perhaps the top performers from theDerbyand Oaks To suit all these participants such a race would need to be WFA and run at the classic distance In many respects such a race already exists the Sandown Zipping Classic What the Sandown Zipping Classic currently lacks is the prize money and promotion to make it a fourth major It already has many advantages being at the end of the carnival run at 2400m and at WFA Being run at Sandown also gives it unique status comparable to the other majors all run at separate tracks To be successful this Champion Classic would need to be worth at least 2 million Increased sponsorship and a whole of industry approach would be needed to achieve such a pool Perhaps an increase in the nomination fees to the other races mentioned could occur creating a pool to increase the prize money for the fourth major In this scenario once nominated in one of the other races a horse is nominated for the Champion Classic This would also attract interest in pre post betting for the

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  • Racing Selections: October 6 | FSB | Blog | Online | Sports | Betting | Live | Bet | Sport | Odds | AFL | NRL | Horse Racing
    to Listed class will suit nicely His only Group 1 run prior to that was a fourth placing in the Australian Guineas in March He has two wins from three starts at Flemington and is unbeaten in two attempts at the 1400 metres here including a win at Group 3 level in the autumn When you consider that of the five horses given 58 kilos or more only one of them has raced at Group 1 level Torio s Quest who has been beaten out of sight twice I think this gallloper is really well weighted with only 54 5 kilos Randwick tips based on a track rating range of good 2 to dead 5 Race 7 No 1 Shoot Out He was outstanding first up when winning the Group 1 George Main Stakes at WFA level which has historically been the best guide to this race 15 of the past 28 Epsom winners have come through that event He has four wins and a second from seven starts at Randwick three wins and two placings from six starts at the mile overall and two wins and a second to More Joyous in the Doncaster Handicap from three starts at the track and trip In a race where elite level form is thin on the ground his last five starts read fantastically a pair of Group 1 WFA wins over a mile a second to Rain Affair over 1400 metres at WFA a third to Manighar over 2000 metres at Group 1 WFA level and the aforementioned second to More Joyous Race 8 No 4 Permit His last start sixth in the Group 2 Hill Stakes was better than it looked on paper as he raced on the inferior ground near the fence in the home straight Two starts ago

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  • Racing Tips | FSB | Blog | Online | Sports | Betting | Live | Bet | Sport | Odds | AFL | NRL | Horse Racing
    starts at the track and trip and a win in this race last year He has won all of his 2000 metre races to date since coming to Australia From barrier three he looks well placed to get a cheap run up near the speed on a moderate tempo Continue reading Racing Selections October 6 Tweet Posted in Horse Racing Odds Melbourne Cup Form Guide Melbourne Cup Odds Tagged Horse

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  • A Not So Good Guide to the Melbourne Cup | FSB | Blog | Online | Sports | Betting | Live | Bet | Sport | Odds | AFL | NRL | Horse Racing
    before Delta won the double in 1951 it had been 84 years since Tim Whiffler had achieved the double in 1867 Eighty four years wait and then four successes in the 1950 s and no horse has won the double since What was it about The Metropolitan in the 1950 s Certainly it appears there are form patterns that develop in Australian racing From time to time a given race stands out for a period as a reliable form guide for disproportionately producing the winner of a future race Why does this happen Is it just a quirk of Australian racing Perhaps success breeds success and a race suddenly becomes fashionable When something works for one trainer perhaps others follow The Geelong Cup seems to mirror this As discussed in an earlier blog as despite its long history first run in 1872 no horse had won the Geelong Cup Melbourne Cup double in the same season until Media Puzzle in 2002 Following that other international trainers have targeted that race as a key lead up for the Melbourne Cup Americain and Dunaden both completed the double in the last two years No horse doing the double in 130 years and then three in the last decade The Geelong Cup is today what The Metropolitan was in the 1950 s While no horse has won the Metrop Melbourne Cup double since Macdougal there have been plenty of close shaves But for a bump down the Flemington straight Natski would likely have completed the double in 1988 The year before Kensei was second in the Metrop before winning the Cup Arwon was also second in the Metrop before winning the Cup All close but no cigar So whatever horse wins The Metropolitan atRandwickthis Saturday you best put a line through it as

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